Can anyone share information on what was Yitzak Rabin doing in
Dallas on 11/22/63.
His widow wrote in her memoires that he was there on that day.

To make it clear from the beginning of this topic, this is
not intented to start a "the jews did it" discussion.

Any information would be helpfull.

Thanks

david weaver

What does his widow say he was doing there? What is the context of her stating that he was in Dallas?

David,

Exactly what position (political) did Mr Rabin hold in November 1963? Was his purpose for being in Dallas on the 22nd a political one?

IAN
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"No Case To Answer - a retired English detective's essays and articles on the JFK assassination, 1993-2005" by Ian Griggs. Published by JFK-Lancer (2005).
Available from amazon.com.

Ron,

i simply don't know, i run across this
info while searching on the net, but
no more specifics found as of now.

david weaver

In 1963 Rabin was Chief of Operations and Deputy Chief of Staff of the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces?).

http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1994/rabin-bio.html

Can you please post a citation for this claim, preferably an actual quote. I'm not doubting your bona fides, but it's easy to surf the net and come across some "Mossad-did-it" website that may be playing fast and loose with the facts.

I did a "Yitzhak Rabin in Dallas" Google search, and found this review of a book called Final Judgment by Michael Collins Piper, which argues that the Mossad was behind the JFK assassination. It mentions the wife saying Rabin was in Dallas but with no explanation.

I haven't heard of this particular book before. Anyone familiar with it?

http://www.konformist.com/jfkland/f-judgement.htm

If Michael Collins Piper is your source, you are going to need to get validation from a primary source. Piper is in the business of holocaust revisionism and the like. Not surprisingly, he has a "The Mossad Did It" book out there. This is what I meant when I said that I wouldn't trust a google search.

Stuart,

"This is what I meant when I said that I wouldn't trust a google search."

Google is simply a search engine. It's not selective in the information it provides. It's up to the searcher to check the site out and determine if the information is what they are looking for. Do a Google search for JFK Assassination and you'll get every kind of site imaginable, including Lancer and McAdams. Which site you visit is your choice, not Google's.

RJS

This book by Michael Collins Piper was published by The Center for Historical Review, Washington, D.C. in January 1994. It is now in its fourth edition (1998), a 594-page softback. A copy of this softback has been donated to the Dealey Plaza UK Library by the author.

IAN
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"No Case To Answer - a retired English detective's essays and articles on the JFK assassination, 1993-2005" by Ian Griggs. Published by JFK-Lancer (2005).
Available from amazon.com.

Stuart,

no that's not my source, and be assured i'm extreme sensible
in this matter.

My first post was more a question than stating a fact.
I should have written it as a question, i admit.

I've come across his name and background too,therefore i didn't make a mention of his book.

I'm still trying to find more info.

I will look at the local library if they have the book from
Lea Rabin.

david weaver

He could have been an invited observer; it seems that there were quite a few people around who were just there to see how things were going to go down. I remember reading somewhere that the Mossad took a great interest in the assassination and, like the KGB and Castro's security forces, tried to replicate it on the basis of the official one-shooter theory (all three attempts apparently failed).

You've got to appreciate that Israel - along with the US and many other countries - have trained assassination teams. People in that line of 'work' might have been invited to Dallas to observe, and learn from, the assassination. It is therefore possible to give a reason why he should have been there that doesn't actually suggest that the Israelis did it.

I remember reading somewhere that there was a big party at Murchison's place the night before the assassination. Everybody was allegedly there - Nixon, Hoover, Johnson, you name it - so they might as well have invited Rabin.

This is from the Book ,RABIN Our Life, His Legacy by Leah Rabin

on pages 119 and 120 she writes about their visit to the US in
November of 1963.

Chapter 6

Sabra Statesman

Our first joint visit to teh United States (Yitzhak had been there before) took place in November 1963, just before Yitzhak was appointed chief of staff of the IDF. In preparation for that appointment, Yitzhak embarked on a high-level orientation trip to America. I can appreciate now how momentous it was to have visited the United States at that precise time. We went to New York and Washington, and Yitzhak traveled to several other cities, mainly military centers and installations-all so exciting and awesome and the source of many important new ideas.

I remember Yitzhak making an offhand comment to me on our way home to Israel: "you know, when I finish my term as chief of staff, I'll be ready to replace Abe Harman." Harman was Israel's ambassador in Washington at the time. Yitzhak's premonition later materialized.

Our 1963 trip to the United States lasted three weeks. I was astonished at the size and the excitement of New York. This was a fast-moving lifestyle, unlike anything I had known in Europe or Israel. Dalia and Yuval, along with a number of officers, met us at Lod Airport in Tel Aviv upon our return. We were told that President Kennedy had been shot-his condition was as yet unclear. We had never met the Kennedys, but we could sense how the promise of John Kennedy's future had stirred Americans and imagined how devasting it would be if something serious had happened to him. Just as we walked in the door of our home, I picked up the phone to hear shocking news: John F. Kennedy was dead. To have just returned for the United States and for Yitzhak to have been in Dallas just hours before-albeit as mere coincidence; Fort Bliss was a stop on his military briefing tour-was disorienting. Yitzhak was about to become chief of staff and had just completed an intensive study of state-of-the-art defense and security practices from the most powerful nation in the world, and suddenly we learned that this country's chief executive was slain by a lone gunman.

Since the 1963 visit, Yitzhak's belief in America's importance to Israel's defense grew steadily. When Yitzhak first proposed to Prime Minister Levi Eshkol that he wanted to leave the military and become ambassador to the United States, Eshkol said, "hold on to me or I'll fall out of my chair." He simply couldn't imagine that Yitzhak would want to become an ambassador with all the cocktail parties and receptions and society small talk that came with the job.



Thank's Nancy for looking this up for me.
You've been a great help for me, as always.

Thank you

david weaver

This was a very worth while subject to look up.

Can't help but wonder if Yitzak and his wife were in Dallas at the same time that Nixon was in Dallas, in New York at the same time that Nixon was in New York. Either, they were on the same plane together or maybe even at the same exact meeting together?

Very interesting. Nixon wasn't President at that time so, minutes can't be checked. Does anyone know if they were at the same meeting?

Thanks,
Nancy